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	<title>Comments on: Traditional vs. Matched Grip – The Paradiddler’s Take</title>
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		<title>By: Taz</title>
		<link>http://theparadiddler.com/2009/01/02/traditional-vs-matched-grip-the-paradiddlers-take/comment-page-1/#comment-16291</link>
		<dc:creator>Taz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaetano,

I agree with you in so many ways and a good drummer should have the ability to play a wide variety of styles, not just one. I remember that Buddy Rich took offense to being called a jazz drummer. He said &quot;There is no such thing as a jazz drummer. If you can play you can play anything&quot;. I still however believe that the way you grip the sticks has nothing to do with how well you can play.

I am now 50 and I too enjoy good jazz over about anything else, especially Stan Kenton and Dave Brubeck. These folks liked complex music and different time signatures and so do I. To this day I have never heard a single song from these guys or any jazz standard that I could not duplicate with match grip. Sometimes the older we get the more resistant to change we are, and sometimes we refuse to question why we do things the way we do. I think traditional grip falls into that category and always has.

There is simply no physical reason that match grip cannot do everything traditional grip can do. If my right hand can do a single stroke roll, double stroke roll, paradiddle or any other rudiment match grip style why cant my left hand do it the same way?  It can of course, and I think people just tend to prefer to use the style they originally learned. When I was in the Army it was clear that the M-16 was in every way superior to the M-1 carbine but you would not believe the old timers who would insist that they preferred the carbine.

Remember that in Buddy&#039;s time everyone played traditional grip, yet no one but he ever rose to the level of his playing. There was much more to the genius of Buddy Rich than the way he held the sticks. I learned traditional grip from an excellent jazz teacher but abandoned it in early adulthood after researching its origins and questioning its advantages. No one has ever been able to show me a thing that the left hand can do traditional grip that I cannot do match grip. I have never gone back and do not regret the decision.

You spoke of the ability to play many different styles and beats and I could not agree more. Solos, speed and power have their place but they are not everything. I can play multiple styles including swing, jazz, rock, reggae, samba, latin, etc. and in any time signature. I can play loud and powerful when needed as well as soft and subtle. The way I hold the sticks has never held me back from anything.

Take care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaetano,</p>
<p>I agree with you in so many ways and a good drummer should have the ability to play a wide variety of styles, not just one. I remember that Buddy Rich took offense to being called a jazz drummer. He said &#8220;There is no such thing as a jazz drummer. If you can play you can play anything&#8221;. I still however believe that the way you grip the sticks has nothing to do with how well you can play.</p>
<p>I am now 50 and I too enjoy good jazz over about anything else, especially Stan Kenton and Dave Brubeck. These folks liked complex music and different time signatures and so do I. To this day I have never heard a single song from these guys or any jazz standard that I could not duplicate with match grip. Sometimes the older we get the more resistant to change we are, and sometimes we refuse to question why we do things the way we do. I think traditional grip falls into that category and always has.</p>
<p>There is simply no physical reason that match grip cannot do everything traditional grip can do. If my right hand can do a single stroke roll, double stroke roll, paradiddle or any other rudiment match grip style why cant my left hand do it the same way?  It can of course, and I think people just tend to prefer to use the style they originally learned. When I was in the Army it was clear that the M-16 was in every way superior to the M-1 carbine but you would not believe the old timers who would insist that they preferred the carbine.</p>
<p>Remember that in Buddy&#8217;s time everyone played traditional grip, yet no one but he ever rose to the level of his playing. There was much more to the genius of Buddy Rich than the way he held the sticks. I learned traditional grip from an excellent jazz teacher but abandoned it in early adulthood after researching its origins and questioning its advantages. No one has ever been able to show me a thing that the left hand can do traditional grip that I cannot do match grip. I have never gone back and do not regret the decision.</p>
<p>You spoke of the ability to play many different styles and beats and I could not agree more. Solos, speed and power have their place but they are not everything. I can play multiple styles including swing, jazz, rock, reggae, samba, latin, etc. and in any time signature. I can play loud and powerful when needed as well as soft and subtle. The way I hold the sticks has never held me back from anything.</p>
<p>Take care.</p>
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		<title>By: Taz</title>
		<link>http://theparadiddler.com/2009/01/02/traditional-vs-matched-grip-the-paradiddlers-take/comment-page-1/#comment-16285</link>
		<dc:creator>Taz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 01:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really cannot believe that after all this time we are still debating this silly topic. I have played for 40 years now and I thought the debate ended in the 70s. Omar you are absolutely correct that traditional grip started because of wartime drumming and nothing else. It was passed on to early drummers straight from the battlefield and then from generation to generation. Early jazz drummers played this way because &quot;This is the way we have always done it&quot; was the prevailing attitude and if you wanted to be taken seriously as a musician you played traditional grip. As drummers figured out that it was no longer necessary to play in a manner designed to compliment a tenor drum on your hip they started doing what comes natural.

Many in rock music were self taught and therefore did what comes naturally. Those who took lessons were taught traditional methods. It was because they took lessons and sought education in the topic that made them better and more advanced than their self taught counterparts, not the way they held their sticks. As a result drumming divided into two different schools of thought, one feeling that it was superior to the other. To think that great drummers such as Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Louis Bellson and Joe Morello were great because of the way they held their sticks is silly, they would have just as great had they practiced match grip from the beginning. It was their great minds, great creativity and dedication to their art that made them great, not the way they held the sticks.

I was taught by a superb teacher who was a drummer for several big acts in the 70s and 80s. He taught me traditional grip and I played this way for many years despite the fact that it never felt right to me and I did much better with match grip. One day he saw me playing match grip and said &quot;If match grip feels better to you go ahead and play match grip, it really makes no difference which you use&quot;. He was right. I have never seen a roll, rudiment, trick or technique with traditional grip that could not be duplicated with match grip. If one closes their eyes and listens to a drummer there is no way of telling how they hold the sticks, and this is all that matters.

Whenever possible one should avoid going against nature. Traditional grip is not natural and one must fight nature in order to master it. When we grip things we do not do so with our thumb and first two fingers with the palm upward, but with the whole hand palms downwards. Thousands of years of evolution based on success and failure have taught us this. There is nothing about the human body that specifies the left hand will do a better job at drumming if it holds the stick in a traditional manner, while the right will do better if it holds a stick in a different manner. One must teach the hands to do this, and once again you must go against nature.

If a child with no experience picks up a set of sticks how do they hold them? Match grip (nature). If you try and drive a nail with a hammer in the left hand do you hold it match grip style or traditional grip style? Of course you hold it match grip style because your power, hand/eye coordination and ability to keep a good grip are much better match grip style. If you doubt me try and drive a nail traditional grip style.  Hold a stick traditional grip style and slowly lower your body weight onto it while holding the tip of the stick against the rim of a drum. Very soon you will no longer be holding the stick. Do the same thing match grip and you will soon be knocking the drum over.

Speed in drumming comes from the result of the lack of wasted motion. When working around the kit with match grip one can cover the same distance with much less motion than traditional grip by bending the wrist at the same time one moves the arm. This cannot be done with traditional grip. Less distance equals greater speed, period.

Let me end by saying that I am not at all opposed to traditional grip. Many great drummers have used it and if it works for you great. But lets drop the concept that traditional grip drummers are smarter, better educated, superior musicians, etc. When I lay down the beat for Take 5 or any other great jazz standard it is my understanding of time signatures, steady time, awareness of other musicians and taste that makes the difference, not the way I hold the sticks. Drumming is 30% physical and 70% mental. Great drummers in history have had great intellects, and that is what made the other 30% great, not their stick holding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really cannot believe that after all this time we are still debating this silly topic. I have played for 40 years now and I thought the debate ended in the 70s. Omar you are absolutely correct that traditional grip started because of wartime drumming and nothing else. It was passed on to early drummers straight from the battlefield and then from generation to generation. Early jazz drummers played this way because &#8220;This is the way we have always done it&#8221; was the prevailing attitude and if you wanted to be taken seriously as a musician you played traditional grip. As drummers figured out that it was no longer necessary to play in a manner designed to compliment a tenor drum on your hip they started doing what comes natural.</p>
<p>Many in rock music were self taught and therefore did what comes naturally. Those who took lessons were taught traditional methods. It was because they took lessons and sought education in the topic that made them better and more advanced than their self taught counterparts, not the way they held their sticks. As a result drumming divided into two different schools of thought, one feeling that it was superior to the other. To think that great drummers such as Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Louis Bellson and Joe Morello were great because of the way they held their sticks is silly, they would have just as great had they practiced match grip from the beginning. It was their great minds, great creativity and dedication to their art that made them great, not the way they held the sticks.</p>
<p>I was taught by a superb teacher who was a drummer for several big acts in the 70s and 80s. He taught me traditional grip and I played this way for many years despite the fact that it never felt right to me and I did much better with match grip. One day he saw me playing match grip and said &#8220;If match grip feels better to you go ahead and play match grip, it really makes no difference which you use&#8221;. He was right. I have never seen a roll, rudiment, trick or technique with traditional grip that could not be duplicated with match grip. If one closes their eyes and listens to a drummer there is no way of telling how they hold the sticks, and this is all that matters.</p>
<p>Whenever possible one should avoid going against nature. Traditional grip is not natural and one must fight nature in order to master it. When we grip things we do not do so with our thumb and first two fingers with the palm upward, but with the whole hand palms downwards. Thousands of years of evolution based on success and failure have taught us this. There is nothing about the human body that specifies the left hand will do a better job at drumming if it holds the stick in a traditional manner, while the right will do better if it holds a stick in a different manner. One must teach the hands to do this, and once again you must go against nature.</p>
<p>If a child with no experience picks up a set of sticks how do they hold them? Match grip (nature). If you try and drive a nail with a hammer in the left hand do you hold it match grip style or traditional grip style? Of course you hold it match grip style because your power, hand/eye coordination and ability to keep a good grip are much better match grip style. If you doubt me try and drive a nail traditional grip style.  Hold a stick traditional grip style and slowly lower your body weight onto it while holding the tip of the stick against the rim of a drum. Very soon you will no longer be holding the stick. Do the same thing match grip and you will soon be knocking the drum over.</p>
<p>Speed in drumming comes from the result of the lack of wasted motion. When working around the kit with match grip one can cover the same distance with much less motion than traditional grip by bending the wrist at the same time one moves the arm. This cannot be done with traditional grip. Less distance equals greater speed, period.</p>
<p>Let me end by saying that I am not at all opposed to traditional grip. Many great drummers have used it and if it works for you great. But lets drop the concept that traditional grip drummers are smarter, better educated, superior musicians, etc. When I lay down the beat for Take 5 or any other great jazz standard it is my understanding of time signatures, steady time, awareness of other musicians and taste that makes the difference, not the way I hold the sticks. Drumming is 30% physical and 70% mental. Great drummers in history have had great intellects, and that is what made the other 30% great, not their stick holding.</p>
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		<title>By: Richie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a great article.  I&#039;m really glad that I found this site.   I am 44 and started taking lessons when I was in elementary school.  I too am a major Buddy fan.  My friend in high school was always more into jazz and I was more into rock.   I told him about a year ago that he is so right.   I now appreciate Buddy Rich and jazz more than ever.  I also really like Gene Krupa.  I&#039;ve been in rock bands and school bands and I&#039;m now in a concert band where we play classical, jazz, marches, and showtune medleys, and I love the jazz (as well as all of the other stuff).  It feels great to swing and it&#039;s challenging and extremely rewarding to play the kicks.  I do like many musical styles, and I think that Steward Copeland has a great sound and feel.  I learned matched grip, but I&#039;ve also gotten into traditional grip and it&#039;s a lot of fun.  I&#039;ve looked things up on the web to try to play it right.  I think that they&#039;re both great grips.  I did learn a rebound technique on matched that a teacher of mine who learned with Alan Dawson learned.  I learned it on matched and it works great.  It also seems very important to enjoy the music and to play well.  Thanks again for a great article.  All the best,  Riche</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a great article.  I&#8217;m really glad that I found this site.   I am 44 and started taking lessons when I was in elementary school.  I too am a major Buddy fan.  My friend in high school was always more into jazz and I was more into rock.   I told him about a year ago that he is so right.   I now appreciate Buddy Rich and jazz more than ever.  I also really like Gene Krupa.  I&#8217;ve been in rock bands and school bands and I&#8217;m now in a concert band where we play classical, jazz, marches, and showtune medleys, and I love the jazz (as well as all of the other stuff).  It feels great to swing and it&#8217;s challenging and extremely rewarding to play the kicks.  I do like many musical styles, and I think that Steward Copeland has a great sound and feel.  I learned matched grip, but I&#8217;ve also gotten into traditional grip and it&#8217;s a lot of fun.  I&#8217;ve looked things up on the web to try to play it right.  I think that they&#8217;re both great grips.  I did learn a rebound technique on matched that a teacher of mine who learned with Alan Dawson learned.  I learned it on matched and it works great.  It also seems very important to enjoy the music and to play well.  Thanks again for a great article.  All the best,  Riche</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 14:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for having this page about traditional and grip.  Let me add comments as a drummer who has gone thru both traditional and grip.  About 1956 my first drum teacher insisted that I master traditional sticking just like Krupa Rich Bellson and Max Roach.  OK I went that route and it worked just fine.  About twenty years later I joined a super drum and bugle corps and they insisted I use Match Grip because Match Grip was the way to go.  So we adapted to Match Grip.  Now all the great tremendous drum and award winning drum corps use Traditional Sticking.  You want to know why?  Press Rolls are in the open style mama daddy roll is still there but the buzz roll or press roll is mastered and made to sound like a beautiful BUZZ played clean and ultra clean is accomplished by using Traditional Sticking.  If you just want to make noise and bang away at your drum kit go right on and grip your drum sticks like handle bars on a bicycle.  Yep I watched  Buddy Rich too many times to count and he had that purr purr press roll down solid and he made it sound like a ocean wave coming into shore.   Buddy used that traditional thing and his left stick if you watch it closely never ever stopped.   Louie Bellson was another one who was a complete master of a drum set and then again he used that old time GREAT GREAT traditionl sticking.  Buddy and Louie did it and that is more than ample to prove the pudding.  Stick with TRADITIONAL STICKING</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for having this page about traditional and grip.  Let me add comments as a drummer who has gone thru both traditional and grip.  About 1956 my first drum teacher insisted that I master traditional sticking just like Krupa Rich Bellson and Max Roach.  OK I went that route and it worked just fine.  About twenty years later I joined a super drum and bugle corps and they insisted I use Match Grip because Match Grip was the way to go.  So we adapted to Match Grip.  Now all the great tremendous drum and award winning drum corps use Traditional Sticking.  You want to know why?  Press Rolls are in the open style mama daddy roll is still there but the buzz roll or press roll is mastered and made to sound like a beautiful BUZZ played clean and ultra clean is accomplished by using Traditional Sticking.  If you just want to make noise and bang away at your drum kit go right on and grip your drum sticks like handle bars on a bicycle.  Yep I watched  Buddy Rich too many times to count and he had that purr purr press roll down solid and he made it sound like a ocean wave coming into shore.   Buddy used that traditional thing and his left stick if you watch it closely never ever stopped.   Louie Bellson was another one who was a complete master of a drum set and then again he used that old time GREAT GREAT traditionl sticking.  Buddy and Louie did it and that is more than ample to prove the pudding.  Stick with TRADITIONAL STICKING</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
		<link>http://theparadiddler.com/2009/01/02/traditional-vs-matched-grip-the-paradiddlers-take/comment-page-1/#comment-12092</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2011 13:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree with Gaetano and all he said.  He hit the nail on the head when he mentioned ROCK DRUMMERS.  They are one beat drummers and will remain that way.  As far as Buddy Rich goes I have yet to hear one drummer out there today that can come close to Buddy Rich.  Buddy has passed away quite a few years ago but still there is no one who can match his ideas and his clean style drumming.  What I am hearing and seeing today are guys who get behind a mega set of drums with GARBAGE CAN cymbals and hammer away at the snare drum.  Its the same over and over and over Rock Beats that sound like tupper ware plastic tubs.  As far as traditional and match grip it&#039;s useless saying what is right and what is wrong.  Years ago everyone played traditional grip and then all of a sudden match grip came into play.  You can pick your style of sticking but the main ingredient is can you master a perfect sounding roll?  Also being TASTY behind a set of drums is essential.  Usually in most cases of today&#039;s drumming it&#039;s loud louder and louder and more louder.  Once again I will go back to Buddy Rich for the finest drumming in the universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with Gaetano and all he said.  He hit the nail on the head when he mentioned ROCK DRUMMERS.  They are one beat drummers and will remain that way.  As far as Buddy Rich goes I have yet to hear one drummer out there today that can come close to Buddy Rich.  Buddy has passed away quite a few years ago but still there is no one who can match his ideas and his clean style drumming.  What I am hearing and seeing today are guys who get behind a mega set of drums with GARBAGE CAN cymbals and hammer away at the snare drum.  Its the same over and over and over Rock Beats that sound like tupper ware plastic tubs.  As far as traditional and match grip it&#8217;s useless saying what is right and what is wrong.  Years ago everyone played traditional grip and then all of a sudden match grip came into play.  You can pick your style of sticking but the main ingredient is can you master a perfect sounding roll?  Also being TASTY behind a set of drums is essential.  Usually in most cases of today&#8217;s drumming it&#8217;s loud louder and louder and more louder.  Once again I will go back to Buddy Rich for the finest drumming in the universe.</p>
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		<title>By: gaetano</title>
		<link>http://theparadiddler.com/2009/01/02/traditional-vs-matched-grip-the-paradiddlers-take/comment-page-1/#comment-10844</link>
		<dc:creator>gaetano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I have to put my opinion in.  I am 67 years old. I started drum lessons when I was 4.  Holding the sticks properly, is like a golfer&#039;s grip.  If it is the wrong grip, you will master bad habits.  You will never get to the position of perfection. Yes, Buddy rich was the best as far as I am concerned.  Anyway, I played a single stroke roll faster than most drummers today can play a double stroke roll. I would have to say that matched stick holding drummers never took drum lessons, but it makes no difference, how they hold them little babies so long as they can perform.  And I don&#039;t mean ROCK DRUMMING, which to me is nothing but a one beat drummer, that does not know what a waltz beat in 3/4 time is, or a jazz beat, or a country beat, or a shuffle beat or a rumba beat, or cha cha beat, or a polka beat, or a blues beat.  All he knows is to beat the hell out of a snare drum and a cheap garbage sounding symbol.  I now live in TX and will estimate that 90% of drummers are self taught, can&#039;t read, and consider themselves pros.  Also, 95% are mostly HARD ROCK, EAR BUSTING SHOW OFF DRUMMERS.  A beautiful set of drums does not make a drummer.  If you can`t play the different beats to accommodate all styles of music, then you are not a pro.  At least by my standards.  Now, when it gets to solos, how many times does a drummer take a solo?  How fast a drummer can move his or her hands around a set of drums means nothing, except for show. I have seen self taught sax players, and lord knows how many self taught guitar players, and yes they can be great, but never will they be the best.  I am old and my drum speed has diminished over the years but drumming does not change, only the kind of music played and the equipment being used.  Today, there are rock drummers all over the world, and they will remain rock drummers the rest of their musical life, until they get a little older and find themselves out in la la land with no groups to play with.  Nobody wants an old person in a rock band, and if you don&#039;t know other beats, YOU&#039;RE FINISHED, as a drummer, playing gigs. Anyway, that is my opinion, and what the hell do I know?????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I have to put my opinion in.  I am 67 years old. I started drum lessons when I was 4.  Holding the sticks properly, is like a golfer&#8217;s grip.  If it is the wrong grip, you will master bad habits.  You will never get to the position of perfection. Yes, Buddy rich was the best as far as I am concerned.  Anyway, I played a single stroke roll faster than most drummers today can play a double stroke roll. I would have to say that matched stick holding drummers never took drum lessons, but it makes no difference, how they hold them little babies so long as they can perform.  And I don&#8217;t mean ROCK DRUMMING, which to me is nothing but a one beat drummer, that does not know what a waltz beat in 3/4 time is, or a jazz beat, or a country beat, or a shuffle beat or a rumba beat, or cha cha beat, or a polka beat, or a blues beat.  All he knows is to beat the hell out of a snare drum and a cheap garbage sounding symbol.  I now live in TX and will estimate that 90% of drummers are self taught, can&#8217;t read, and consider themselves pros.  Also, 95% are mostly HARD ROCK, EAR BUSTING SHOW OFF DRUMMERS.  A beautiful set of drums does not make a drummer.  If you can`t play the different beats to accommodate all styles of music, then you are not a pro.  At least by my standards.  Now, when it gets to solos, how many times does a drummer take a solo?  How fast a drummer can move his or her hands around a set of drums means nothing, except for show. I have seen self taught sax players, and lord knows how many self taught guitar players, and yes they can be great, but never will they be the best.  I am old and my drum speed has diminished over the years but drumming does not change, only the kind of music played and the equipment being used.  Today, there are rock drummers all over the world, and they will remain rock drummers the rest of their musical life, until they get a little older and find themselves out in la la land with no groups to play with.  Nobody wants an old person in a rock band, and if you don&#8217;t know other beats, YOU&#8217;RE FINISHED, as a drummer, playing gigs. Anyway, that is my opinion, and what the hell do I know?????????</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 13:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see drummers coming here and putting there two cents in about sticking and what seems comfortable to them.  Admire everyone&#039;s insight and everyone has a way of playing drums and if its good for them let them play the way they feel nice and groovy.  As far as Buddy Rich goes Man that&#039;s a whole ball park worth of comments to go into.  I met him back in the l960s and he did the ultra great drum work that astonished all of us.  When he played in New York before his Big Band that he called the Buddy Rich Big Band I saw Buddy in a small Jazz Quintet.  I think he was using Rogers Drums at the time anyway he had this thing going with his left stick and bass drum that was mind boggling.  My drum teacher and I would go to Birdland when Buddy was in town and it was like watching Jesus Walk on Water.  Buddy would do these incredible drum solos on a chart called Surrey with the Fringe on Top.  When Buddy took his drum solo the whole night club would go silent and everyone stopped what they were doing.  I saw the waiters put their trays down and stop to look and listen.  And then after he finished his drum solo there would be a roar of applause that would last for five minutes.  Just pure Buddy Rich adrenaline pouring out.  And another thing about Rich he used a standard set of drums no Two Bass Drums or a battery of cymbals just a plain set of drums.  No mikes no special lighting just pure Buddy Rich.  We could have a thousand new drummers out there today and maybe another two thousand new drummers in the upcoming years but no one repeat no one can come close or near to the expertise of a Buddy Rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see drummers coming here and putting there two cents in about sticking and what seems comfortable to them.  Admire everyone&#8217;s insight and everyone has a way of playing drums and if its good for them let them play the way they feel nice and groovy.  As far as Buddy Rich goes Man that&#8217;s a whole ball park worth of comments to go into.  I met him back in the l960s and he did the ultra great drum work that astonished all of us.  When he played in New York before his Big Band that he called the Buddy Rich Big Band I saw Buddy in a small Jazz Quintet.  I think he was using Rogers Drums at the time anyway he had this thing going with his left stick and bass drum that was mind boggling.  My drum teacher and I would go to Birdland when Buddy was in town and it was like watching Jesus Walk on Water.  Buddy would do these incredible drum solos on a chart called Surrey with the Fringe on Top.  When Buddy took his drum solo the whole night club would go silent and everyone stopped what they were doing.  I saw the waiters put their trays down and stop to look and listen.  And then after he finished his drum solo there would be a roar of applause that would last for five minutes.  Just pure Buddy Rich adrenaline pouring out.  And another thing about Rich he used a standard set of drums no Two Bass Drums or a battery of cymbals just a plain set of drums.  No mikes no special lighting just pure Buddy Rich.  We could have a thousand new drummers out there today and maybe another two thousand new drummers in the upcoming years but no one repeat no one can come close or near to the expertise of a Buddy Rich.</p>
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		<title>By: andy petko</title>
		<link>http://theparadiddler.com/2009/01/02/traditional-vs-matched-grip-the-paradiddlers-take/comment-page-1/#comment-8842</link>
		<dc:creator>andy petko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I play drums and percussion for 40 years, and I play 80% matched grip, and 20% traditional.  In Europe, where I live, people play matched.  Traditional grip play rare lovers of that grip.  For me traditional grip is better for jazz, but one of the best British jazz drummers of all time Phil Seaman, played matched grip.  When you hear him, you think he is playing traditional. He teaches Ginger Baker. But other matched grip jazz drummers, like Bill Stewart, Aaron Scott, Jack DeJohnette (he play now matched), Max Roach (in his late years), Billy Cobham (when play bop)... etc., sounds matched, and that&#039;s it!  This is new standard now and in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I play drums and percussion for 40 years, and I play 80% matched grip, and 20% traditional.  In Europe, where I live, people play matched.  Traditional grip play rare lovers of that grip.  For me traditional grip is better for jazz, but one of the best British jazz drummers of all time Phil Seaman, played matched grip.  When you hear him, you think he is playing traditional. He teaches Ginger Baker. But other matched grip jazz drummers, like Bill Stewart, Aaron Scott, Jack DeJohnette (he play now matched), Max Roach (in his late years), Billy Cobham (when play bop)&#8230; etc., sounds matched, and that&#8217;s it!  This is new standard now and in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: GougeMan</title>
		<link>http://theparadiddler.com/2009/01/02/traditional-vs-matched-grip-the-paradiddlers-take/comment-page-1/#comment-8320</link>
		<dc:creator>GougeMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 00:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you guys.  I have been vigorously trying to get the traditional grip down over the past year.  I&#039;ve been playing for 30 years so this was an adjustment for me.  I am intentionally using it in everything I do.  I have it down for the most part, but still trying to get the speed of singles up to my matched grip speed.  I don&#039;t think one grip is better than the other, it&#039;s just traditional grip is something that has eluded me over the years and I want to master it.  Maybe in a few more years I&#039;ll have it to where I am happy with it....
Don&#039;t let a grip hang you guys up.  Matched grip can be just as &quot;touchy&quot; as traditional just turn your hand to the side in more of  a French grip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you guys.  I have been vigorously trying to get the traditional grip down over the past year.  I&#8217;ve been playing for 30 years so this was an adjustment for me.  I am intentionally using it in everything I do.  I have it down for the most part, but still trying to get the speed of singles up to my matched grip speed.  I don&#8217;t think one grip is better than the other, it&#8217;s just traditional grip is something that has eluded me over the years and I want to master it.  Maybe in a few more years I&#8217;ll have it to where I am happy with it&#8230;.<br />
Don&#8217;t let a grip hang you guys up.  Matched grip can be just as &#8220;touchy&#8221; as traditional just turn your hand to the side in more of  a French grip.</p>
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		<title>By: Cdrone92</title>
		<link>http://theparadiddler.com/2009/01/02/traditional-vs-matched-grip-the-paradiddlers-take/comment-page-1/#comment-7910</link>
		<dc:creator>Cdrone92</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 00:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,

I&#039;m a day away from auditioning for The Ohio State University Marching Band, and I have to say, I couldn&#039;t even imagine trying to play our marching snares matched grip, seeing as we hang our drums on a strap, about the same as what the old colonial folk did :-P

But my comment in terms of the article, I guess, has to do more with college bands and drum corps, but can also be applied to every other type of drumming. A good reason besides tradition itself that groups/drummers use traditional grip comes from the fact that it&#039;s just harder, and to master it is a bigger accomplishment (at least in their minds.) Take DCI for example: if you had two exactly same corps, but one marched their snares w/ traditional and one marched them with matched, which group do you think the judge would give the difficulty points to? So I guess my only reason I can think of is that to master the more difficult grip is more of a feat, a bragging right, which kind of helps the tradition of using traditional grip push itself on and on in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a day away from auditioning for The Ohio State University Marching Band, and I have to say, I couldn&#8217;t even imagine trying to play our marching snares matched grip, seeing as we hang our drums on a strap, about the same as what the old colonial folk did <img src='http://theparadiddler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But my comment in terms of the article, I guess, has to do more with college bands and drum corps, but can also be applied to every other type of drumming. A good reason besides tradition itself that groups/drummers use traditional grip comes from the fact that it&#8217;s just harder, and to master it is a bigger accomplishment (at least in their minds.) Take DCI for example: if you had two exactly same corps, but one marched their snares w/ traditional and one marched them with matched, which group do you think the judge would give the difficulty points to? So I guess my only reason I can think of is that to master the more difficult grip is more of a feat, a bragging right, which kind of helps the tradition of using traditional grip push itself on and on in the process.</p>
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